While a lot of variety shows have hosted magicians over the years, none have shown the level of restraint and professionalism when it comes to honest critique quite like Penn & Teller Fool Us. In an interview with GeniiOnline, the two discuss why they wanted to create a different kind of show, and why the duo focuses on the success or failure of the moment rather than making sweeping predictions or judgments.

Be sure to watch the rest of our interview with Penn & Teller, where the two talk about the origins of the show. Or go backstage with David Parr as he performs his prize-winning routine.