If you’ve seen Mahdi Gilbert’s YouTube videos or his performance on Penn & Teller’s Fool Us, then you know just how talented he has to be to craft his own methods in order to perform magic without hands. (If you haven’t seen it, go watch the video in the link above. We’ll wait.) In this week’s episode of the Discourse in Magic podcast, co-hosts Jonah Babin and Tyler Williams interview Gilbert on his background, how to present and discuss magic in the 21st century, his appearance on Fool Us, and what YouTube magicians need to do to break out into the wider public consciousness. Listen to the episode at the link here, and be sure to subscribe on iTunes or Android for more episodes each week.