When Randy Pitchford was just getting his start in magic, he quickly learned that there were two kinds of magicians: those who acted as mentors and helped budding performers like himself, and those who prefer to keep their knowledge close to their chests. In part four of our seven-part interview at GeniiCon 2017, Randy talks about learning magic from the greats, hiding his lineage and learning who people really were as a result, and how we need their knowledge more than ever in the digital age.

For more clips from the interview, check out the links below:

Part one: On his start in magic

Part two: On inheriting Genii and bridging the gap between the classical and digital worlds

Part three: On discovering magic in the 21st century: “We have something that’s both worse and better”

Part five: On curating his social media experience

Part six: On the most important thing young magicians have: time

Part seven: Randy Pitchford’s first time at the Magic Castle