“Technology is killing magic.” That’s a controversial statement in the magician community, and for good reason. While the Internet has helped to educate and spotlight a whole generation of performers, it’s also easier than ever to do damage by sharing secrets or getting just the wrong video angle uploaded to YouTube.

But that’s not the magic Marian Green is talking about. The 77-year-old white witch is concerned about these kids and their techno-toys getting disconnected from nature and natural magic.

Green, who identifies herself as a white witch, told the annual Occult Conference that people should know about plants because trees have a way of “drawing up magic” from the land.

“We do not need to be separated from the natural world, but an awful lot of young people grow up today distanced from nature,” she said. “People are divorced from the real world and out of sync. The old folk lived by the light of the moon and the tide. We need to feel the balance and reconnect to nature – connect human nature to the natural world – the gentle art of natural magic.”

So yes. Definitely a controversial statement.